Andrew Jorgensen's (Gregory Peck) scathing address to the stockholders of New England Wire & Cable Co. denounced corporate raider Lawrence (aka Larry the Liquidator) Garfield (Danny De Vito):
Well, it's good to see so many familiar faces, so many old friends. Some of ya I haven't seen in years. Well, thank you for coming. Now, Bill Coles, our able President, in the annual report, has told you of our year, of what we accomplished, of the need for further improvements, our business goals for next year and the years beyond. I'd like to talk to you about something else. I wanna share with you some of my thoughts concerning the vote that you're going to make in the company that you own. This proud company, which has survived the death of its founder, numerous recessions, one major depression, and two world wars, is in imminent danger of self-destructing - on this day, in the town of its birth. There is the instrument of our destruction. I want you to look at him in all of his glory, Larry 'The Liquidator,' the entrepreneur of post-industrial America, playing God with other people's money. The Robber Barons of old at least left something tangible in their wake - a coal mine, a railroad, banks. This man leaves nothing. He creates nothing. He builds nothing. He runs nothing. And in his wake lies nothing but a blizzard of paper to cover the pain. Oh, if he said, 'I know how to run your business better than you', that would be something worth talking about. But he's not saying that. He's saying, 'I'm gonna kill you because at this particular moment in time, you're worth more dead than alive.' Well, maybe that's true, but it is also true that one day, this industry will turn. One day when the yen is weaker, the dollar is stronger, or, when we finally begin to rebuild our roads, our bridges, the infrastructure of our country, demand will skyrocket. And when those things happen, we will still be here, stronger because of our ordeal, stronger because we have survived. And the price of our stock will make his offer pale by comparison. God save us if we vote to take his paltry few dollars and run. God save this country if that is truly the wave of the future. We will then have become a nation that makes nothing but hamburgers, creates nothing but lawyers, and sells nothing but tax shelters. And if we are at that point in this country, where we kill something because at the moment it's worth more dead than alive - well, take a look around. Look at your neighbor. Look at your neighbor. You won't kill him, will you? No. It's called murder and it's illegal. Well, this too is murder - on a mass scale. Only on Wall Street, they call it 'maximizing share-holder value' and they call it 'legal.' And they substitute dollar bills where a conscience should be. Damn it! A business is worth more than the price of its stock. It's the place where we earn our living, where we meet our friends, dream our dreams. It is, in every sense, the very fabric that binds our society together. So let us now, at this meeting, say to every Garfield in the land, 'Here, we build things. We don't destroy them. Here, we care about more than the price of our stock! Here, we care about people.'
President and Chairman of the Board of Garfield Investments' Larry the Liquidator (Danny De Vito) responded to Andrew's attack:
Amen, and amen, and amen. You'll have to forgive me, I'm not familiar with the local custom. Where I come from, you always say 'Amen' after you hear a prayer. Because that's what you just heard - a prayer. Where I come from, that particular prayer is called 'The Prayer for the Dead.' You just heard The Prayer for the Dead, my fellow stockholders, and you didn't say, 'Amen.' This company is dead. I didn't kill it. Don't blame me. It was dead when I got here. It's too late for prayers. For even if the prayers were answered, and a miracle occurred, and the yen did this, and the dollar did that, and the infrastructure did the other thing, we would still be dead! You know why? Fiber optics. New technologies. Obsolescence. We're dead, alright. We're just not broke. And do you know the surest way to go broke? Keep getting an increasing share of a shrinking market. Down the tubes. Slow, but sure.
You know, at one time, there must've been dozens of companies making buggy whips. And I'll bet the last company around was the one that made the best god-damn buggy whip you ever saw. Now how would you have liked to have been a stockholder in that company? You invested in a business and this business is dead. Let's have the intelligence, let's have the decency to sign the death certificate, collect the insurance, and invest in something with a future. 'Ah, but we can't,' goes the prayer. 'We can't because we have responsibility, a responsibility to our employees, to our community. What will happen to them?' I got two words for that - 'Who cares?' Care about them? Why? They didn't care about you. They sucked you dry. You have no responsibility to them. For the last ten years, this company bled your money. Did this community ever say, 'We know times are tough. We'll lower taxes, reduce water and sewer.' Check it out: You're paying twice what you did ten years ago. And our devoted employees, who have taken no increases for the past three years, are still making twice what they made ten years ago. And our stock - one-sixth of what it was ten years ago. 'Who cares?' I'll tell ya -- Me.
I'm not your best friend. I'm your only friend. I don't make anything. I'm makin' you money. And lest we forget, that's the only reason any of you became stockholders in the first place. You wanna make money! You don't care if they manufacture wire and cable, fried chicken, or grow tangerines! You wanna make money! I'm the only friend you've got. I'm makin' you money. Take the money. Invest it somewhere else. Maybe, maybe you'll get lucky and it'll be used productively. And if it is, you'll create new jobs and provide a service for the economy and, God forbid, even make a few bucks for yourselves. And if anybody asks, tell 'em ya gave at the plant. And by the way, it pleases me that I'm called 'Larry the Liquidator.' You know why, fellow stockholders? Because at my funeral, you'll leave with a smile on your face and a few bucks in your pocket. Now that's a funeral worth having!
矮个子金融野蛮人与恶意收购厂长家精英律师女儿的爱情事业双过招。如果你有竞争对手的话,或许你对他的关注还高于你爱的人,而这两者如果是同一个人,刺激感指数上升。
从资本家角度,丛林法则,适者生存,只有资源得到最佳的配置,社会的效率才会最高,历史的车轮才能滚滚向前。而作为社会牛马的我们如果安于现状,不提升自己价值,只会是车轮下的一粒尘埃。从KPI角度来讲,企业总是希望明年业绩比今年好,个人也总是希望明天比今天更美好,两者又算是殊途同归了。
我觉得这个片子不仅仅反映了在特殊时代,资本家或者投机的人怎么挣钱,背后的血腥和残酷,我觉得更反映了背后的人性。
所谓,貌似坏人的,也有七情六欲;所谓,好人,即使做了60年好人的,也顶不住金钱的诱惑;所谓,感情薄如纸;所谓,女人,就是用来征服的。呵呵,这些就是我的体会。很欣赏这部片的演员,演技纯熟毫不做作,两场演说很精彩,男女主角的对话和桥段设计,虽然略显老套,但是仍然会让我会心一笑。
陈平大佬推荐的,就看了下。
1、这个电影取了个好名字,《Other People's Money》
2、电影的开头很赞,一下子把你带了进去。
3、之后的故事,和电影名相当不符。
4、整个故事就是华尔街金融大佬研究一家上市公司时,看到一个赚钱机会,想赚一波快钱,但是会影响这家公司本身,于是公司的创始人奋起反抗的故事,这个主线之外,并行了一条华尔街大佬和创始人女儿之间的暧昧诡异的感情线。
6、把故意设计的斗争、冲突、诡异的感情戏分抛开,回到看电影的初心上来,这个电影中的金融部分是什么?
1)不知道金融行业有没有一个「市资率」的概念。
假设 PA(市资率) = 每股股价/每股资产价值,因为股价反应的是人们对这家公司未来赚钱能力的预期, 所以一般来说,PA > 1 ,合理的话也顶多是PA=1,或者稍稍小于1 。
2)电影中的男主,就是华尔街大佬发现有一家公司的PA=0.4 ,远小于1。具体来说,他的股价10美元,但是公司所有的资产加起来怎么着也得有1亿美元,公司一共就400万股,所以一股值25美元。PA=10/25=0.4。
3)大佬就研究了半天也没发现什么问题,于是也让下属去调查,同样也没发现什么问题,没有负债,没有环境污染问题,员工也没闹罢工,也没有官司在身。
4)于是大佬就想收购这家公司然后再卖掉,10块买进25块卖出,150%的收益率。嗜血的资本家自然是两眼放绿光了。
5)不过,为什么本来值25美元,股价却只有10美元呢,因为不赚钱,没有利润,电影里说这是一个夕阳产业。
6)没利润,还是夕阳产业,为什么财务数据上其他项都这么好看,这么完美呢?
大佬给了一个很好的解释:在汽车时代全面取代马车之前,最后一家制造马车的公司一定能造出市场上质量最好的马鞭!因为这家公司经验多啊,工人热爱这份事业啊,而且你在市场上也找不到其他家啊。但悲剧的是,整个时代变了,没人需要马鞭了。
7)人都不傻,公司的目的本来就是盈利,这家公司的创始人和高管们对于「没利润」视而不见吗?因为人老了都会沉溺于过去,沉溺于原来的模式,喜欢原来的做事方法,因为时代给每个人打上了烙印,时代会更替,时间一直向前,但人在青年时期打上的烙印,一旦打上就永远带着了。为了反击华尔街大佬,律师建议变更公司注册地的时候,电影中的创始人竟然言辞激烈的说凭什么啊?我不改!
8)所以华尔街大佬就来到这家公司跟他们谈合作收购的事情,电影里的用词叫「Corporation Takeover」,创始人生气的说你是跟我合作吗?你这是让我自杀啊,我绝不会自杀的。大佬说这怎么能叫自杀啊,这叫「安乐死」啊。
9)也许1991年的电影观众都知道什么叫「Corporation Takeover」,反正我不知道,电影里也没有细讲,就看着一个兴头很大,一个气急败坏。
10)大概意思应该是:行业没落了,你们没有客户了,新加坡和台湾早晚会把你们的市场份额彻底吃掉的,但是现在还没到那个时候,你让我来操盘,咱们把公司所有的资产重新梳理一下,分拆成几个部分,快死的就让他提前死,好的就保留,或者卖个好价钱。
11)于是老爷子把作律师的女儿找来,给出出主意,女儿找到了一些方法一边拖延金融大佬的动作,一边去跟大佬谈判;
12)最后老爷子决定来一场公投,让股东投票,你们想继续跟干,还是听金融大佬的。
13)在公投前,老爷子和大佬都做了一个演讲,是整部电影最精彩的一部分,老爷子先讲,金融大佬后讲。老爷子大概意思说:
然后台下掌声雷动,想想现在的特朗普呼吁制造业回流,真是唏嘘不已啊,1991-2020,不过三十年。
14)然后轮到华尔街大佬了,我本以为华尔街大佬要输了,没想到大佬的演讲一样精彩,下边是来自B站的视频:
最后大佬赢了。
15)最后吐槽一下,电影的感情线又尴尬又诡异,还穿插着猥琐的段子,老爷子的女儿是名律师,去和金融大佬谈判了多次,有一次是去大佬家里谈,最后谈崩了律师转身就走了,大佬追了出来,说:
真是呵呵哒。1991年的美国啊,华尔街真是大佬中的大佬,有钱可以cao翻世界。
导演安排这段对话的设计也很巧妙,大佬自然得是居高临下的视角。
16)女主很美,但演技真的很差
16)所以,到底怎么着就Other Peope's Money了呢,就一个杂糅了尴尬感性的争夺战的故事布局。《华尔街之狼》比这个电影更称得上是 Other People's Money.
Andrew Jorgensen's (Gregory Peck) scathing address to the stockholders of New England Wire & Cable Co. denounced corporate raider Lawrence (aka Larry the Liquidator) Garfield (Danny De Vito):
Well, it's good to see so many familiar faces, so many old friends. Some of ya I haven't seen in years. Well, thank you for coming. Now, Bill Coles, our able President, in the annual report, has told you of our year, of what we accomplished, of the need for further improvements, our business goals for next year and the years beyond. I'd like to talk to you about something else. I wanna share with you some of my thoughts concerning the vote that you're going to make in the company that you own. This proud company, which has survived the death of its founder, numerous recessions, one major depression, and two world wars, is in imminent danger of self-destructing - on this day, in the town of its birth. There is the instrument of our destruction. I want you to look at him in all of his glory, Larry 'The Liquidator,' the entrepreneur of post-industrial America, playing God with other people's money. The Robber Barons of old at least left something tangible in their wake - a coal mine, a railroad, banks. This man leaves nothing. He creates nothing. He builds nothing. He runs nothing. And in his wake lies nothing but a blizzard of paper to cover the pain. Oh, if he said, 'I know how to run your business better than you', that would be something worth talking about. But he's not saying that. He's saying, 'I'm gonna kill you because at this particular moment in time, you're worth more dead than alive.' Well, maybe that's true, but it is also true that one day, this industry will turn. One day when the yen is weaker, the dollar is stronger, or, when we finally begin to rebuild our roads, our bridges, the infrastructure of our country, demand will skyrocket. And when those things happen, we will still be here, stronger because of our ordeal, stronger because we have survived. And the price of our stock will make his offer pale by comparison. God save us if we vote to take his paltry few dollars and run. God save this country if that is truly the wave of the future. We will then have become a nation that makes nothing but hamburgers, creates nothing but lawyers, and sells nothing but tax shelters. And if we are at that point in this country, where we kill something because at the moment it's worth more dead than alive - well, take a look around. Look at your neighbor. Look at your neighbor. You won't kill him, will you? No. It's called murder and it's illegal. Well, this too is murder - on a mass scale. Only on Wall Street, they call it 'maximizing share-holder value' and they call it 'legal.' And they substitute dollar bills where a conscience should be. Damn it! A business is worth more than the price of its stock. It's the place where we earn our living, where we meet our friends, dream our dreams. It is, in every sense, the very fabric that binds our society together. So let us now, at this meeting, say to every Garfield in the land, 'Here, we build things. We don't destroy them. Here, we care about more than the price of our stock! Here, we care about people.'
President and Chairman of the Board of Garfield Investments' Larry the Liquidator (Danny De Vito) responded to Andrew's attack:
Amen, and amen, and amen. You'll have to forgive me, I'm not familiar with the local custom. Where I come from, you always say 'Amen' after you hear a prayer. Because that's what you just heard - a prayer. Where I come from, that particular prayer is called 'The Prayer for the Dead.' You just heard The Prayer for the Dead, my fellow stockholders, and you didn't say, 'Amen.' This company is dead. I didn't kill it. Don't blame me. It was dead when I got here. It's too late for prayers. For even if the prayers were answered, and a miracle occurred, and the yen did this, and the dollar did that, and the infrastructure did the other thing, we would still be dead! You know why? Fiber optics. New technologies. Obsolescence. We're dead, alright. We're just not broke. And do you know the surest way to go broke? Keep getting an increasing share of a shrinking market. Down the tubes. Slow, but sure.
You know, at one time, there must've been dozens of companies making buggy whips. And I'll bet the last company around was the one that made the best god-damn buggy whip you ever saw. Now how would you have liked to have been a stockholder in that company? You invested in a business and this business is dead. Let's have the intelligence, let's have the decency to sign the death certificate, collect the insurance, and invest in something with a future. 'Ah, but we can't,' goes the prayer. 'We can't because we have responsibility, a responsibility to our employees, to our community. What will happen to them?' I got two words for that - 'Who cares?' Care about them? Why? They didn't care about you. They sucked you dry. You have no responsibility to them. For the last ten years, this company bled your money. Did this community ever say, 'We know times are tough. We'll lower taxes, reduce water and sewer.' Check it out: You're paying twice what you did ten years ago. And our devoted employees, who have taken no increases for the past three years, are still making twice what they made ten years ago. And our stock - one-sixth of what it was ten years ago. 'Who cares?' I'll tell ya -- Me.
I'm not your best friend. I'm your only friend. I don't make anything. I'm makin' you money. And lest we forget, that's the only reason any of you became stockholders in the first place. You wanna make money! You don't care if they manufacture wire and cable, fried chicken, or grow tangerines! You wanna make money! I'm the only friend you've got. I'm makin' you money. Take the money. Invest it somewhere else. Maybe, maybe you'll get lucky and it'll be used productively. And if it is, you'll create new jobs and provide a service for the economy and, God forbid, even make a few bucks for yourselves. And if anybody asks, tell 'em ya gave at the plant. And by the way, it pleases me that I'm called 'Larry the Liquidator.' You know why, fellow stockholders? Because at my funeral, you'll leave with a smile on your face and a few bucks in your pocket. Now that's a funeral worth having!